Daytona Coupe Gen 3 with full aero – car setup for VIR March 23, 2017.
Drivers | Passengers | |
Front Springs | 900 LB | 900 LB |
Front Camber | -2.9 | -2 |
Front Caster | +6 | +6.6 |
Front Tow | 1/8 out | |
Front Swaybar | stiff | |
Front Ride Height | 2 7/8 | 2 7/8 |
Rear Springs | 700 LB | 700 LB |
Rear Camber | -2.1 | -2.1 |
Rear Tow | ||
Rear Tow Total | 1/4 in | |
Rear Swaybar | soft | |
Rear Ride Height | 3 1/8 | 3 1/8 |
Weight with 180lb driver, 5gal of fuel, front splitter, GTC300 rear wing, Hoosier 245 A7 on FR500 17×9 wheels.
DF =639 |
Front = 1229 |
PF =590 |
DR =820 |
Rear = 1601 |
PR =781 |
Total = 2830 | ||
Cross = 1410 | Cross % = 49.8 | Rear % = 56.6 |
NASA 2017 ST2 deceleration form: 2017_May_NASA_ST2_245tires
Car setup on 9/17/16 for NASA Nationals 2016 @ Watkins Glen ST2
Drivers | Passengers | |
Front Springs | 700 LB | 700 LB |
Front Camber | -3.3 | -2.2 |
Front Caster | +3.2 | +3.8 |
Front Tow | 1/16 out | |
Front Swaybar | stiff | |
Front Ride Height | 3 | 3.25 |
Rear Springs | 550 LB | 550 LB |
Rear Camber | -3.2 | -2.0 |
Rear Tow | 2/16 in | 1/16 in |
Rear Tow Total | 3/16 in | |
Rear Swaybar | stiff | |
Rear Ride Height | 3.25 | 3.5 |
No Driver weight, 16.5gal of fuel (100lb), front splitter resting on nose of car, GTC1000 rear wing, Hoosier 245 R7 on FR500 9×17 wheels, forgot to disconnect swaybar when scaling!!!
DF =545 |
Front = 1084 |
PF =539 |
DR =723 |
Rear = 1453 |
PR =730 |
Total = 2536 | ||
Cross = 1262 | Cross % = 49.7 | Rear % = 57.2 |
Weight with 180lb driver, 16.5 gal of fuel (100lb), front splitter resting on nose of car, GTC1000 rear wing, Hoosier 245 R7 on FR500 9×17 wheels, forgot to disconnect when swaybar!!!
DF =588 |
Front = 1129 |
PF =541 |
DR =811 |
Rear = 1582 |
PR =771 |
Total = 2710 | ||
Cross = 1352 | Cross % = 49.8 | Rear % = 58.4 |
Car Setup for 2016 – ST2 on 7/16/2016
Drivers | Passengers | |
Front Springs | 700 LB | 700 LB |
Front Camber | -3.8 | -3.8 |
Front Caster | +5.6 | +5.6 |
Front Tow | 1/16 out | |
Front Swaybar | stiff | |
Front Ride Height | ||
Rear Springs | 550 LB | 550 LB |
Rear Camber | -3.1 | -3.1 |
Rear Tow | 3/16 in | |
Rear Swaybar | stiff | |
Rear Ride Height |
Weight with 180lb driver, 10 gal of fuel
DF =572 |
Front = 1114 |
PF =542 |
DR =774 |
Rear = 1512 |
PR =738 |
Total = 2626 | ||
Cross = 1316 | Cross % = 50.1% | Rear % = 57.6% |
Car setup for 2016 – ST2 on 5/22/2016
Drivers | Passengers | |
Front Springs | 700 LB | 700 LB |
Front Camber | -3.0 | -3.0 |
Front Caster | +5.6 | +5.6 |
Front Tow | 1/16 out | |
Front Swaybar | stiff | |
Front Ride Height | 3.5″ | 3.5″ |
Rear Springs | 550 LB | 550 LB |
Rear Camber | -1.5 | -1.7 |
Rear Tow | 3/16 in | |
Rear Swaybar | medium | |
Rear Ride Height | 4″ | 4″ |
Weight with 180lb driver, xxx gal of fuel
DF =? |
Front = ? |
PF =? |
DR =? |
Rear = ? |
PR =? |
Total = ? | ||
Cross = ? | Cross % = ?% | Rear % = ?% |
Weight without driver:
DF =? |
Front = ? |
PF =? |
DR =? |
Rear = ? |
PR =? |
Total = ? | ||
Cross = ? | Cross % = ?% | Rear % = ?% |
Notes: trying new front spindles modifying upper control arm bolt-in location, to help with roll steer. Set camber/caster and measured bump steer, best was with outer tie rod mounted to the top of the spindle arm which was modified to ‘drop’ the bolt hole down. Rack also has solid offset bushings raising rack up. Added rack extenders to inner tierods.
Bump measurements:
Ride Height | rear of wheel | Front of wheel | tow |
5″ | 68 10/16 | 68 11/16 | 1/16 out |
4.5″ | 68 11/16 | 68 12/16 | 1/16 out |
4″ | 68 12/16 | 68 12/16 | 0 |
3.5″ | 68 12/16 | 68 13/16 | 1/16 out |
3″ | 68 12/16 | 68 13/16 | 1/16 out |
2.5″ | 68 11/16 | 68 14/16 | 3/16 out |
2″ | 68 10/16 | 68 14/16 | 4/16 out |
Car setup for 2016 – ST2 on 3/6/2016
Drivers | Passengers | |
Front Springs | 700 LB | 700 LB |
Front Camber | -3.0 | -2.8 |
Front Caster | +9.8 | +10.2 |
Front Tow | 1/16 out | |
Front Swaybar | medium | |
Front Ride Height | 3.5″ | 3.5″ |
Rear Springs | 550 LB | 550 LB |
Rear Camber | -1.5 | -1.7 |
Rear Tow | 3/16 in | |
Rear Swaybar | medium | |
Rear Ride Height | 4″ | 4″ |
Weight with 180lb driver, 19Gal fuel, aero, all 60lb of ballast installed (missing sfi clutch safety blanket)
DF =572 |
Front = 1229 |
PF =557 |
DR =802 |
Rear = 1577 |
PR =775 |
Total = 2707 | ||
Cross = 1359 | Cross % = 50.2% | Rear % = 58.2% |
Weight without driver:
DF =520 |
Front = 1074 |
PF =554 |
DR =712 |
Rear = 1446 |
PR =734 |
Total = 2520 | ||
Cross = 1266 | Cross % = 50.2% | Rear % = 57.3% |
Notes:
Car setup for 2015 – ST2
Front springs = 700lb
Rear springs = 550lb
Swaybar on middle setting
Drivers | Passengers | |
Camber | -3.0 | -2.8 |
Caster | +10.0 | +9.8 |
Tow | 1/16 out |
Notes: 9″ wheels with Hoosier A6 275/35/17 chords outside edge drivers rear. Bought 10.5″ wheels, which fixed problem
Car setup for Nationals 2014 – FFR Challenge Spec
Front springs = 550lb
Rear springs = 400lb
Swaybar on middle setting
Drivers | Passengers | |
Camber | -3.2 | -2.7 |
Caster | +5.6 | +6.6 |
Tow | 1/16 out |
Notes: Car didnt feel as stable through turn 12, still understeer, change swaybar from full stiff to middle. Changed engine over night at Joe Camire’s place with help form Jim Schenck, junkyard shortblock had massive blowby spewing oil out of the catch can. Forgot to tighten oilpan bolts on pass side, leaked a lot. Pass side valve cover was leaking oil, along with the 90deg oil filter fitting oring. Finished Nats race in P2.
Car setup 8/2/14 at Road Atlanta
Front springs = 550lb
Rear springs = 400lb
Swaybar on full stiff
Drivers | Passengers | |
Camber | -2.9 | -2.9 |
Caster | +9.4 | +9.4 |
Tow | 1/8 out |
Notes: car was neutral in warmup 8:30am, used 5gal in 25min session best lap was 1:35.8
Car Setup 6/15/2012 at Road Atlanta
Changed front springs to 700lb to fix understeer (left the 500lb rear springs). Also set front sway bar to medium (left side soft, right side hard.)
Car Setup 5/26/2012 at NJMP
Drivers | Passengers | |
Camber | -3 | -2.8 |
Caster | +8.4 | +8.4 |
Tow | 1/16 out |
Changed front springs to 750lb to fix oversteer. At same time rear lower control arm bushings were replaced and greased causing car to understeer. Swaybar set to full stiff.
Car Setup 4/24/2012
Weight with 177lb driver, 30psi tires, 7.5 gal fuel missing from tank (almost full), with ballast, swaybar disconnected
DF =576 |
Tot Front =1110 |
PF =534 |
DR =732 |
Tot Rear =1424 |
PR =692 |
Tot DS =1308 | Total = 2535 | Tot PS =1226 |
DS weight = 51.6% | Cross = 50% | Rear weight = 56.17% |
Weight without driver, 30psi tires, 7.5 gal fuel missing from tank (almost full), with ballast, swaybar disconnected
DF =527 |
Tot Front =1058 |
PF =531 |
DR =646 |
Tot Rear =1299 |
PR =653 |
Tot DS =1173 | Total = 2357 | Tot PS =1184 |
DS weight = 49.77% | Cross = 50% | Rear weight = 55.11% |
Camber/Caster/Ride Height/Tow/Springs/Swaybar connection:
Drivers | Passengers | |
Camber | -1.8 | -1.8 |
Caster | 7.6 | 7.8 |
Front Ride Height | 3 1/2 | 3 7/16 |
Rear Ride Height | 4 | 4 1/4 |
Toe | 1/16 out | |
Front Springs | 650lb | 650lb |
Front Swaybar | back hole | back hole |
Rear Springs | 500lb | 500lb |
Car Setup 3/17/2012
Weight with 171lb driver, 30psi tires, 15gal fuel, with pass seat/harnesses, swaybar disconnected
DF =546 |
Tot Front =1069 |
PF =523 |
DR =730 |
Tot Rear =1429 |
PR =699 |
Tot DS =1276 | Total = 2498 | Tot PS =1222 |
DS weight = 51.08% | Cross = 50.16% | Rear weight = 57.21% |
Weight without driver, 30psi tires, 15gal fuel, with pass seat/harnesses, swaybar disconnected
DF =499 |
Tot Front =1016 |
PF =517 |
DR =639 |
Tot Rear =1301 |
PR =662 |
Tot DS =1138 | Total = 2317 | Tot PS =1179 |
DS weight = 49.12% | Cross = 49.89% | Rear weight = 56.15% |
Camber/Caster/Ride Height/Tow/Springs/Swaybar connection:
Drivers | Passengers | |
Camber | ||
Caster | ||
Front Ride Height | ||
Rear Ride Height | ||
Toe | 1/16 out | |
Front Springs | 650lb | 650lb |
Front Swaybar | back hole | back hole |
Rear Springs | 500lb | 500lb |
Car Setup 3/20/2011
Weight with driver (178lb) and 5gal fuel. FR500 wheels, new ToyoTires at 30psi, FFR scales, started at 3 7/8″ front, 4 1/8″ rear ride height.
DF = 587 | Tot Front = 1118 | PF = 531 |
DR = 702 | Tot Rear = 1361 | PR = 659 |
Tot DS = 1289 | Total = 2479 | Tot PS = 1190 |
DS weight = 52% | Cross = 49.74% | Rear weight = 54.9% |
Camber/Caster/Tow/Springs
Drivers | Passengers | |
Camber | -2.9 | -2.9 |
Caster | 8.2 | 7.8 |
Toe | 1/16″ out | |
Front Springs | 750 | 750 |
Rear Springs | 500 | 500 |
Front ride height | 3 13/16″ | 3 15/16″ |
Rear ride height | 4 1/2″ | 4 5/16″ |
Weight without driver:
DF = 525 | Tot Front = 1056 | PF = 531 |
DR = 617 | Tot Rear = 1233 | PR = 616 |
Tot DS = 1142 | Total = 2289 | Tot PS = 1147 |
DS weight = 49.89% | Cross = 50.15% | Rear weight = 53.87% |
Car Setup 3/6/2011
Weight with driver (180lb) and 5gal fuel. FR500 wheels, very used ToyoTires at 29.5psi, Pat’s scales
DF = 581 | Tot Front = 1105 | PF = 524 |
DR = 710 | Tot Rear = 1364 | PR = 654 |
Tot DS = 1291 | Total = 2469 | Tot PS = 1178 |
DS weight = 52.29% | Cross = 49.98% | Rear weight = 55.25% |
Camber/Caster/Tow/Springs
Drivers | Passengers | |
Camber | -2.9 | -2.9 |
Caster | 8.2 | 7.8 |
Toe | 1/16″ out | |
Front Springs | 750 | 750 |
Rear Springs | 500 | 500 |
Car Setup 8/7/2010
Weight with driver (174lb) and about 5gal fuel
DF = 581 | Tot Front = 1120 | PF = 539 |
DR = 694 | Tot Rear = 1338 | PR = 644 |
Tot DS = 1275 | Total = 2458 | Tot PS = 1183 |
DS weight = 51.87% | Cross = 50.16% | Rear weight = 54.43% |
Weight without driver and about 5gal fuel
DF = 529 | Tot Front = 1067 | PF = 538 |
DR = 611 | Tot Rear = 1216 | PR = 605 |
Tot DS = 1140 | Total = 2283 | Tot PS = 1143 |
DS weight = 49.93% | Cross = 50.33% | Rear weight = 53.26% |
Camber/Caster/Ride Height/Tow/Springs (Rear Koni Adj shocks set 1 click down from max):
Drivers | Passengers | |
Camber | ||
Caster | ||
Front Ride Height | ||
Rear Ride Height | ||
Toe | ||
Front Springs | 750 | 750 |
Rear Springs | 550 | 550 |
Car Setup 9/12/2009 @ Nats 2009
Weight with driver (170lb) and ?gal fuel
DF = 588 |
Tot Front = 1131 |
PF = 543 |
DR = 742 |
Tot Rear = 1446 |
PR = 704 |
Tot DS = 1330 | Total = 2577 | Tot PS = 1247 |
DS weight = 51.61% | Cross = 49.86% | Rear weight = 56.11% |
Weight without driver and ?gal fuel
DF = 538 |
Tot Front = 1081 |
PF = 543 |
DR = 657 |
Tot Rear = 1326 |
PR = 669 |
Tot DS = 1195 | Total = 2407 | Tot PS = 1212 |
DS weight = 49.65% | Cross = 49.85% | Rear weight = 55.09% |
Camber/Caster/Ride Height/Tow/Springs (Rear Koni Adj shocks set 1 click down from max):
Drivers | Passengers | |
Camber | -2.0 | -2.0 |
Caster – digital gauge | 5.6 | 6.4 |
Caster – analog gauge | 6.5 | 7.5 |
Front Ride Height | ? | ? |
Rear Ride Height | ? | ? |
Toe | +1/16 | |
Front Springs | 750lb | 750lb |
Rear Springs | 550lb | 550lb |
Note: car loves to oversteer.
Car Setup 6/27/2009
Weight with driver (170lb) and 5gal fuel, street tires at 32psi on Cobra R wheels:
DF = 607 |
Tot Front = 1168 |
PF = 561 |
DR = 711 |
Tot Rear = 1376 |
PR = 665 |
Tot DS = 1318 | Total = 2544 | Tot PS = 1226 |
DS weight = 51.81% | Cross = 49.98% | Rear weight = 54.09% |
Weight without driver and 5gal fuel, street tires at 32psi on Cobra R wheels:
DF = 555 |
Tot Front = 1120 |
PF = 565 |
DR = 633 |
Tot Rear = 1257 |
PR = 624 |
Tot DS = 1188 | Total = 2377 | Tot PS = 1189 |
DS weight = 49.52% | Cross = 50.40% | Rear weight = 52.88% |
Camber/Caster/Ride Height/Tow/Springs (Koni Adj shocks set to max stiffness):
Drivers | Passengers | |
Camber | -2.0 | -2.0 |
Caster – digital gauge | 5.6 | 6.4 |
Caster – analog gauge | 6.5 | 7.5 |
Front Ride Height | 3 7/8 | 4 1/8 |
Rear Ride Height | 4 7/8 | 5 1/4 |
Toe | +1/16 | |
Front Springs | 700lb | 700lb |
Rear Springs | 550lb | 550lb |
Car Setup 5/26/2009
Weight with driver (168lb) and 16gal fuel, street tires on Cobra R wheels:
DF = 600 |
Tot Front = 1146 | PF = 564 |
DR = 729 |
Tot Rear = 1420 | PR = 691 |
Tot DS = 1329 | Total = 2585 | Tot PS = 1255 |
DS Weight = 51.4% | Cross = 50.06% | Rear weight = 54.9% |
Camber/Caster/Ride Height/Tow/Spring (Koni adj shocks set to max stiffness):
Drivers | Passengers | |
Camber | -1.6 | -1.5 |
Caster | 6.8 | 7.4 |
Front Ride Height | 3 3/4 | 4 1/16 |
Rear Ride Height | 4 7/8 | 5 1/16 |
Toe | +1/8 | |
Front Springs | 700lb | 700lb |
Rear Springs | 550lb | 550lb |
Notes: Front springs changed to 700lb to help fix understeer.
Car Setup 3/7/09
Weight with driver (170lb) and 5gal fuel:
DF = 580 |
Tot Front = 1143 |
PF = 563 |
DR = 684 |
Tot Rear = 1329 |
PR = 645 |
Tot DS = 1265 | Total = 2473 | Tot PS = 1208 |
DS weight = 51.1% | Cross = 50.4% | Rear weight = 53.7% |
Weight without driver and 5gal fuel:
DF = 526 |
Tot Front = 1097 |
PF = 571 |
DR = 609 |
Tot Rear = 1221 |
PR = 612 |
Tot DS = 1135 | Total = 2317 | Tot PS = 1182 |
DS weight = 51% | Cross = 50.88% | Rear weight = 52.7% |
Camber/Caster/Ride Height/Tow/Springs (Koni Adj shocks set to max stiffness):
Drivers | Passengers | |
Camber | -1.9 unconfirmed | -2.1 unconfirmed |
Caster | 8.2 unconfirmed | 7.8 unconfirmed |
Front Ride Height | 3 3/8 | 3 1/2 |
Rear Ride Height | 4 | 4 3/8 |
Toe | +1/8 unconfirmed | |
Front Springs | 750lb | 750lb |
Rear Springs | 550lb | 550lb |
Car Setup 3/15/08
Weight with driver (170lb) and unknown amount of fuel:
DF = 595 |
Tot Front = 1141 |
PF = 546 |
DR = 733 |
Tot Rear = 1421 |
PR = 688 |
Tot DS = 1328 | Total = 2562 | Tot PS = 1234 |
DS weight = 51.9% | Cross = 49.9% | Rear weight = 55.5% |
Weight without driver:
DF = 538 |
Tot Front = 1090 |
PF = 552 |
DR = 657 |
Tot Rear = 1299 |
PR = 642 |
Tot DS = 1195 | Total = 2388 | Tot PS = 1240 |
DS weight = 50.0% | Cross = 50.6% | Rear weight = 54.4% |
Camber/Caster/Ride Height/Tow/Shocks (Billstein):
Drivers | Passengers | |
Camber | -1.9 | -2.1 |
Caster | 8.2 | 7.8 |
Front Ride Height | 3 3/4 | 3 1/2 |
Rear Ride Height | 4 | 4 1/8 |
Toe | +1/8 | |
Front Springs | 700lb | 700lb |
Rear Springs | 450lb | 450lb |